**solidarity with ppl in rojava** @paulfree14 · 2018-07-01T09:01:26Z

solidarity with ppl in rojava @paulfree14

solidarity with ppl in rojava @paulfree14

What does #matrix mean with 'analytics'? google analytics? 😱

https://todon.nl/media/67J2Sb40t3J1B_waSpg

Jul 01, 2018, 09:01 · Mastalab · 2 · 1

**Criptos** @criptos@mastodon.social · Jul 01, 2018, 09:08

**Criptos** @criptos@mastodon.social · Jul 01, 2018, 09:08

@paulfree14 I think it's only registering your IP and things like that (it's in their Privacy Policy). But it's not matrix, but Riot.im server who does it

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Jul 01, 2018, 09:14

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Jul 01, 2018, 09:14

@paulfree14 They added this selection right before GDPR. Presumably they were silently doing analytics before that.

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Jul 01, 2018, 09:23

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Jul 01, 2018, 09:23

@paulfree14 You'd think that given that Matrix/Riot is quite modern - mostly written in the last couple of years - that they wouldn't use Google analytics because we now understand the full horrors of Google.

Sure enough, the Riot android app uses Google analytics.

I'll need to check into this more to see what it's actually doing and whether it's turned off.

**Maltimore** @Maltimore@masto.themimitoof.fr · Jul 01, 2018, 09:25

**Maltimore** @Maltimore@masto.themimitoof.fr · Jul 01, 2018, 09:25

@bob @paulfree14
I'd be very interested in what you find out!

**solidarity with ppl in rojava** @paulfree14 · Jul 01, 2018, 09:27

**solidarity with ppl in rojava** @paulfree14 · Jul 01, 2018, 09:27

@bob
...that would be really bad behaviour

**Albatroz Jeremias** @ajeremias@coletivos.org · Jul 01, 2018, 10:04

**Albatroz Jeremias** @ajeremias@coletivos.org · Jul 01, 2018, 10:04

@paulfree14

@bob
i filled an issue 1.5yrs ago exposing ganalytics on https://riot.im and thry keep on insisting? creepy. :facepalm:

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Jul 01, 2018, 10:05

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Jul 01, 2018, 10:05

@ajeremias @paulfree14 It does look like Google analytics was removed but that some residual references to it remain in the codebase and manifest. They do still use Google Cloud Messaging, but I don't think that's enabled in the f-droid version.

**Albatroz Jeremias** @ajeremias@coletivos.org · Jul 01, 2018, 10:07

**Albatroz Jeremias** @ajeremias@coletivos.org · Jul 01, 2018, 10:07

@bob

@paulfree14
just search for 'google' on their repo... scary stuff...

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Jul 01, 2018, 10:08

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Jul 01, 2018, 10:08

@ajeremias @paulfree14 I'm not sure what com.google.i18n.phonenumbers does

**Albatroz Jeremias** @ajeremias@coletivos.org · Jul 01, 2018, 10:09

**Albatroz Jeremias** @ajeremias@coletivos.org · Jul 01, 2018, 10:09

@bob
looks like a translation.. i18n...
@paulfree14

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Jul 01, 2018, 10:11

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Jul 01, 2018, 10:11

@ajeremias @paulfree14 Seems fairly bening. Releted to the formatting of phone numbers.

**Albatroz Jeremias** @ajeremias@coletivos.org · Jul 01, 2018, 10:13

**Albatroz Jeremias** @ajeremias@coletivos.org · Jul 01, 2018, 10:13

@bob

@paulfree14
https://github.com/vector-im/riot-android/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=google&type= :matrix: :troll:

**☭ Mr. Troll ☭** @nipos@social.netzkombinat.su · Jul 01, 2018, 09:57

**☭ Mr. Troll ☭** @nipos@social.netzkombinat.su · Jul 01, 2018, 09:57

@paulfree14 At least for the web version they use an selfhosted Matomo instance but I haven't checked it for the app.

**Albatroz Jeremias** @ajeremias@coletivos.org · Jul 01, 2018, 09:58

**Albatroz Jeremias** @ajeremias@coletivos.org · Jul 01, 2018, 09:58

@paulfree14
yeah im already halfway migrated to xmpp... riot/matrix is a profit based company... they make their code as hardcoded, so it does not work in a federated world. later ill share here a list of known scary security issues with riot/marrix. #fckriot.im

**Christophe S.🏰** @r3vlibre@mastodon.tetaneutral.net · Jul 01, 2018, 10:39

**Christophe S.🏰** @r3vlibre@mastodon.tetaneutral.net · Jul 01, 2018, 10:39

@paulfree14 Maybe, juste ask @matrix ...

**solidarity with ppl in rojava** @paulfree14 · Jul 01, 2018, 10:45

**solidarity with ppl in rojava** @paulfree14 · Jul 01, 2018, 10:45

@r3vlibre
true, but I was wrong with asuming it's about matrix, it's about the app called riot. (not shure if matrix is behind that development too)
@matrix

**Albatroz Jeremias** @ajeremias@coletivos.org · Jul 01, 2018, 10:56

**Albatroz Jeremias** @ajeremias@coletivos.org · Jul 01, 2018, 10:56

@paulfree14

@r3vlibre @matrix
yeah they all receive the paychek from the same company this new vector ltd... i also will expose matrix flaws... i only have the link in the computer... im on the phone :/

**Albatroz Jeremias** @ajeremias@coletivos.org · Jul 02, 2018, 00:21

**Albatroz Jeremias** @ajeremias@coletivos.org · Jul 02, 2018, 00:21

@paulfree14 @r3vlibre @matrix @bob

#matrix & #riot fail. :facepalm:

https://pad.lamyne.org/AwMwHMCMCsDsIFoBskDMwEBY4YIYGMAmAUwVgMPxGiXwCM7ig===?view#

**kaiyou** @kaiyou@mastodon.tedomum.net · Jul 01, 2018, 11:04

**kaiyou** @kaiyou@mastodon.tedomum.net · Jul 01, 2018, 11:04

@paulfree14 Well, no. Mostly a hosted Matomo and Prometheus iirc. These were once opt-out but never were completely silent; people complained and they switched it to opt-in.