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Using “egalitarian“ instead of “decentralised“ to refer to a network topology without centres

I don’t like the term “decentralised” (which sucks, given how often I use it). For one thing, it’s ambiguous (see, for example, the eternal debate of whether or not to use “decentralised“ or “distributed” when you mean “no centres”). For another, it defines itself in relation to its inverse. I’m going to start using “egalitarian“ to describe the network topology where every node is equal.

@aral I think that would start to shift the meaning of egalitarian.

We don't have egalitarian in mastodon. Even so there are atempts in that direction.
The social status is very different between eugen and a common user.

Also I'm not shure if I like egalitarian at all as it just say (haven't yet read much about egalitarian) having equal right but doesn't define them

Thought we could have very bad equal right..also states use these arguments to opress through the court system

@paulfree14 I mean very specifically to describe the network topology where every node truly is equal. In other words, imagine if the norm in the Mastodonsphere/ActivityPubsphere was instances of one. Or imagine any peer-to-peer topology where the nodes truly are equal (I don't mean in terms of how many followers you have but in terms of the features of the nodes themselves). That’s what I’d use it for. Not as a replacement for “decentralised” or “federated”.

@aral @paulfree14 perhaps, to avoid confusion, we need a different term than "egalitarian"?

"Egalitized" (as a call-back to "decentralized")?

@rysiek @paulfree14 I feel it’s important that the term itself does not imply that the norm is centralised. It’s not. It’s just the dominant topology today. e.g., PCs didn’t decentralise Mainframes; they created their own topology. I see the same for the Personal Networking era. It’s a new topology; not an evolution of the existing Web/Cloud, even if it may use some of the same technologies.

@aral @paulfree14 I like "equinodal". What accessibility issue are you talking about?

@rysiek @paulfree14 If I talk to someone without technical knowledge, I will have to explain “peer to peer.” Equinodal, I’d have to explain to everyone (since it’s not a term that exists). When you say “egalitarian”, nearly everyone – regardless of technical skill – has an idea what you mean.

solidarity with ppl in rojava @paulfree14

@rysiek @aral
I like the idea to use a term mostly used to describe social constructs to describe technical construct.
Just by doing so it feels like matching two, still very much seperated political actors to join fighting the struggles togehter.

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